Jun 14 23:47:01 <adimania>	gwerra: ping
Jun 14 23:47:31 <gwerra>	adimania: pong-ish
Jun 14 23:48:07 <adimania>	hey, how are you? free for our pre-meeting stuff?
Jun 14 23:48:26 <gwerra>	I am gonna wrap up and see you in 10 mins
Jun 14 23:48:56 <gwerra>	Gotta finish my dinner now, I ll see you in 10
Jun 14 23:49:04 <adimania>	sure.. pm me anytime
Jun 14 23:59:08 <gwerra>	adimania: I am ready, you want to talk via PM?
Jun 14 23:59:56 <adimania>	I don't have any preference as such
Jun 15 00:00:22 <adimania>	carry on with whatever you think is more suitable.
Jun 15 00:00:33 <dhaval>	you might as well discuss it here ;)
Jun 15 00:01:41 <adimania>	yeah. Let us discuss it here. may be others would be able to suggest something.
Jun 15 00:02:34 <gwerra>	Um sure
Jun 15 00:03:04 <gwerra>	So what is your plan on making it netbook friendly
Jun 15 00:04:09 <adimania>	my initial plan was to split the larger packages to remove some stuff which a netbook won't require
Jun 15 00:05:07 <adimania>	like I don't see any use of floppy formatter
Jun 15 00:05:10 <gwerra>	but that will only decrease size of download
Jun 15 00:05:21 <adimania>	or even k3b.
Jun 15 00:06:01 <gwerra>	We need to enable the netbook plasma desktop
Jun 15 00:06:03 <adimania>	yes, this will decrease the install foot print. it will be great for the hardware with smaller disks.
Jun 15 00:06:37 <gwerra>	we shuold make a new group, right now we have kde-desktop, we will make a kde-desktop-minimal
Jun 15 00:06:47 <gwerra>	so anyone can use that package set really
Jun 15 00:16:56 <adimania>	what I suggest is a combined approach. We should mark the packages which are to be replaced like k3b
Jun 15 00:17:00 <gwerra>	so I was telling if we do that
Jun 15 00:17:13 <gwerra>	we can make minimal packages of everything
Jun 15 00:17:25 <adimania>	also we should look for the apps which we want to include in -minimal packages
Jun 15 00:17:35 <gwerra>	and add it to that group
Jun 15 00:17:51 <adimania>	yep! looks good to me
Jun 15 00:18:28 <gwerra>	let me get a sweater or something, its getting cold in here
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Jun 15 00:19:03 <adimania>	yep! looks good to me?
Jun 15 00:19:53 <adimania>	oops! sorry, arrow keys are playing. but woa! is it cold in any part of india?
Jun 15 00:20:19 <gwerra>	back, I cant really handle much of the cold weather
Jun 15 00:20:39 <gwerra>	so we need to look at packages like you said
Jun 15 00:20:56 <gwerra>	and make down a list, I dint have time for that, but I think we should start on it now
Jun 15 00:21:04 <gwerra>	we should let most of the apps stay
Jun 15 00:21:13 <gwerra>	except remove the ones that need too much space
Jun 15 00:21:46 <adimania>	yeah. I have looked once. was not able to find a lot of apps to remove
Jun 15 00:22:20 <adimania>	and maybe we can look for the apps which uses less resources and replace them.
Jun 15 00:22:35 <gwerra>	Yup
Jun 15 00:22:58 <adimania>	Instead of kde workspace maybe we can use kde plasma netbook workspace
Jun 15 00:23:06 <gwerra>	yup
Jun 15 00:23:17 <gwerra>	remove apps that do search indexing, etc
Jun 15 00:24:54 <adimania>	yeah. So let us get started. Do you have the link where I sorted the apps to be removed?
Jun 15 00:31:44 <gwerra>	adimania: looking at it
Jun 15 00:34:20 <gwerra>	we can make kdelibs smaller depending on libs we might not need
Jun 15 00:34:40 <gwerra>	so can we do for the kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace
Jun 15 00:35:56 <adimania>	yeah. I bet kde netbook workspace is smaller than the kde-workspace
Jun 15 00:36:04 <gwerra>	yup it is
Jun 15 00:36:24 <gwerra>	remove plamsa addons as it is more like a luxury than necessity
Jun 15 00:36:28 <adimania>	we'll strip kdelibs nonetheless
Jun 15 00:39:15 <adimania>	okay. So, for now, I guess we should work on this list till we have a meeting with rrix and jreznik. After that we can start creating -minimal packages.
Jun 15 00:40:07 <gwerra>	http://fpaste.org/CYbD/ is the list that yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation" gives me
Jun 15 00:40:18 <gwerra>	so we need to take this list and edit it
Jun 15 00:40:32 <gwerra>	according to our needs
Jun 15 00:40:49 <gwerra>	and make it netbook friendly
Jun 15 00:41:35 <adimania>	okay. I'll start looking into it.
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Jun 15 00:43:54 <gwerra>	save a copy of the file
Jun 15 00:44:22 <gwerra>	and see what you can remove from it
Jun 15 00:44:28 <gwerra>	I ll do the same and we'll match out list
Jun 15 00:44:35 <gwerra>	and then put that up on the wiki
Jun 15 00:45:23 <gwerra>	or better yet, I ll take a fresh KDE install and take the printout of rpm -qa
Jun 15 00:45:36 <gwerra>	(KDE Live install)
Jun 15 00:47:30 <adimania>	rpm -qa would be better
Jun 15 00:48:55 <adimania>	i did that on fresh f12, but it looks like i have lost the file :(
Jun 15 00:49:09 <gwerra>	I will do that on F13
Jun 15 00:49:19 <gwerra>	downloading the live CD now